NATURAL OR SPIRITUAL?
By: Jo Smith ~~~~ May 10, 2026
‘If I have told you earthly things and you did not understand how will you understand if I tell you heavenly things?’
Natural or Spiritual?
The natural or carnal interpretation of God’s word is the Dust that the serpents eat.
Eat? How do you hear that, as natural or spiritual? Think about this and you will see if you understand spiritual things or carnal. See? Did you hear that as natural or spiritual?
Are you a serpent or a son of God? It all depends on how you interpret the Word of God. Do you eat his flesh or the dust? Eat his flesh? Think about that for a minute. How can you eat his flesh? Drink his blood? Drink? Natural or spiritual?
John 2: 1 And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there: 2 And both Jesus was called, and his disciples, to the marriage.
Jesus was resurrected on the third day. Oh, I know. But see there is much more to Scripture than the surface or natural/carnal story. If you cannot look/see, read below the surface you are carnal minded and not spiritual.
A marriage? On the third day? Yes, He was raised from the dead now able to marry his wife. He had come out of his chamber. Joel 2: 16 Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet.
His chamber was that grave. Now he is ready for his marriage. So?
The MOTHER of Jesus… ? He said, you who do the will of my Father are my mother, my sister and my brother.
His Mother? You/me. Jesus and his DISCIPLES were called to the marriage. Are you ready?
John 2: 3 And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.
They have no wine? Wine? How do you see that? Natural or spiritual. Think! Wine? It is the Holy Ghost. It is the Spirit. So they had no Holy Ghost, as yet.
5 His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it.
So, we must say ‘whatever you say we will do’.
The willing and obedient shall eat the good of the Land. [Natural or spiritual?]
6 And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece.
Six [number of men]... vessels of STONE’. Law. stony heart. after the manner of the purifying of the Jews
7 Jesus saith unto them, Fill the waterpots with water. And they filled them up to the brim.
[Get them water baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. Fill them up!]
Watch the full plan of salvation be revealed in this chapter.
8 And he saith unto them, Draw out now, and bear unto the governor of the feast. And they bare it.
[Out of your belly shall flow rivers of living water; a well springing up to everlasting life].
See? After they had been filled with the Water of salvation in their stony heart, there came out WINE. Holy Ghost = water of eternal life.
9 When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew;) the governor of the feast called the bridegroom,
10 And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.
The water was made wine… the baptism became the Holy Ghost within.. People do not know where it comes from or where it goes. The Wind blowing. … a rushing mighty wind. The Water changes to the blood of Jesus when the Word is pronounced over it. You saved the best wine UNTIL NOW. Praise God. We received the Best.
Watch the carnal mind be instructed here: 19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? 21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
See how their mind went to the natural… six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days …. But he spoke of his body…. He showed here the true spiritual meaning of his words. They looked at the natural … a man-made building… he spoke of his body; the true Temple of God.
John 3: 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
How can a man be born when he is old? See? His mind went to the natural. But verse 5 shows the true Spiritual meaning.
12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
And they took that as natural/carnal and came up with the false doctrine that this man, Jesus, was up in heaven before he was born. Their carnal minds always turn truth into a lie.
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
So now they think Jesus was a serpent and that all they must do to have eternal life is just say I believe. The devils believe also. See there is much more to believing than just saying I believe.
Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.
John 4: 6 Now Jacob's well was there. Jesus therefore, being wearied with his journey, sat thus on the well: and it was about the sixth hour.
7 There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water: Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink.
See? The sixth hour is always connected with when Jesus died. The woman came to draw water… with joy we draw water out of the wells of salvation/ everlasting water/life. She came to draw natural water; Jesus asked her to give him a drink. We must also give something to our bridegroom. We must give him ourselves. That is our dowry.
10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.
11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water? 12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?
13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again:
Notice how the woman’s mind went to the natural/carnal meaning. … How are you going to get water out of the well? You have nothing to draw with? But then HE told her of living water.
14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
They were concerned about where to worship. Later folks are concerned with which day. But Jesus again set it to the spiritual…. Neither… worship in Spirit and in truth. No matter where; no matter which day. … do it all the time. Now that is the right way.
31 In the mean while his disciples prayed him, saying, Master, eat.
32 But he said unto them, I have meat to eat that ye know not of.
33 Therefore said the disciples one to another, Hath any man brought him ought to eat?
34 Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.
See how the disciples still could only see the natural/carnal. He said, I have meat to eat that ye know not of. They said who brought him something to eat? He set it spiritual again: my meat is to do the will of him that sent me and to finish his work. IT IS FINISHED.
Now here is where it gets deep:
John 6: 41 The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven.
42 And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?
See how their minds went to the natural man standing in front of them? They thought Jesus was speaking about Jesus. Not true… again making a lie due to their carnal minds. ‘They said, is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? Then how can he say I came down from heaven?
And that is exactly what most people still think today.. That Jesus was speaking about Mary’s son, Jesus. How could ‘he’ come down from heaven? Right! But it was the Word, the WORD of God speaking inside this man. He never once claimed to be the Word. He said, the Word that I speak is not mine but the Father’s who sent me. IT WAS THE WORD THAT IS OUR BREAD; IT WAS THE WORD THAT CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN; NOT THE MAN, JESUS.
It is the dust that is the serpent’s meat…. Thinking that Jesus is the Word of God; that Jesus was in heaven before he was born on earth. THAT IS THE CARNAL MIND WHICH IS DEATH.
Now for the most profound words in all Scripture; this is the verses that opened my eyes to this marvelous truth:
51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. [Here the carnal minded still think that HE was saying I give my human body; he was saying I give my spiritual FOOD for the life of the world. You must EAT this FLESH. Can you eat his human body?]
52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?
53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
59 These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.
60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?
62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
How can this man give us his flesh to eat? See? They heard it as natural/carnal. Eat this man’s FLESH? Huh? Drink this man’s blood? God forbid. They thought he meant his natural body. But he meant his own spiritual FOOD. Food. His Words were God’s word; so we must EAT God’s word which is the same flesh or FOOD that Jesus ate. Eat? Yes, take it into your heart/mind/spirit. Believe the truth; accept the truth; obey the truth; else no eternal life for you.
This is the FLESH THAT THE WORD WAS MADE INTO. not Mary’s baby. Else you must EAT THAT BABY. you must drink his human blood if that is what was meant. If you think that you are strictly carnal minded and to be carnally minded is enmity against God; it is death to the soul.
The words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. The WORDS that Jesus spoke is The Christ; The son of God; also the Son of man. ………the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
There you have it.. Laid out crystal clear… IT IS THE WORD. This was and is the flesh of Jesus; it is our bread. IT is our life.
AMEN.
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