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Taming the Law….By: Jo Smith…… June 8, 2015

I have said many times that nothing in Scripture is as we first think or as our natural mind perceives it to be. God said his word is spiritual and must be spiritually discerned. Most people hate this idea, since they do not have a clue what a spiritual mind is. Some think that because they can shout, speak in tongues or enjoy a good hand-clapping singing get-together, that this proves they are spiritual. Not at all.

The most confusing subject in all Scripture, and the most misunderstood, is that of LAW. IS IT LAW OR GRACE? I am afraid not many even realize that there is much of a difference, or that it does not matter. It is truly a matter of life or death, eternally.

God uses many nations, cities, and people, down through history to show his truth of times from Adam to the end. In this study of Ezekiel I will show you that God is using Egypt to show that old law system, since this law system was originally set up by Adam, for the purpose of gaining control over others. This law system is conclusively proven by Scripture to be the forbidden tree, or as I call it, tree of death. If you eat it, you die. So then see that knowing the difference in law and grace is vital to your salvation.

Ezekiel 30 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 30 The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying, 2 Son of man, prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord God; Howl ye, Woe worth the day! 3For the day is near,
even the day of the Lord is near,
a cloudy day; it shall be the time of the heathen.

4 And the sword shall come upon Egypt, and great pain shall be in Ethiopia, when the slain shall fall in Egypt,
and they shall take away her multitude, and her foundations shall be broken down.

5 Ethiopia, and Libya, and Lydia, and all the mingled people, and Chub, and the men of the land that is in league,
shall fall with them by the sword.

Why am I calling this message, Taming the Law? It is the message here in Eze 30. Watch:

The sword is the word of God. Surely you know that? OK> the sword comes on Egypt. What? Remember, Egypt here is same as Adam or law. So the sword of someone is going to take down this old law system, which is the enmity. Does not Scripture clearly say, the law is the enmity and that Jesus nailed it to his cross, taking it out of the way? Sure it does.

The day of the Lord? A cloudy day; the time of the heathen. It is the time that God reached out to the heathen to bring them to salvation. Cloudy? It is during those seven churches, when truth was so muddled over, that truth was covered up and hidden by the false shepherds, who took advantage of Grace, to set themselves up on high = preaching for wages; something that Jesus forbids.

If you read Ezekiel without the revelation from God, you will see only past history of ancient nations, and it will make no sense at all. But, let’s see this AS SPIRITUAL.

The ‘slain’ shall fall in Egypt? The sword cut off those holding to law, and brought them into understanding Grace, or salvation WITHOUT THE WORKS OF THE LAW. This is a message that Paul pounded and preached with all his might.

They took away her multitude? Sound horrible? not so. Those apostles, preaching grace, or hitting law with that sword, took a large number out of that death, and brought them into LIFE. Glory to God. See, the preaching of Grace tamed that old law and put it away from those who came into the light of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Her foundations were broken down….who? that old law system. It is called a she all through the OT. It is that tree of knowledge of Good and evil. Grace is also called a she….this one is the tree of life = a female. This is a beautiful message, which can be found all through Scripture, if you know what you are looking for and how to find it.

Verse 6-8. Thus saith the Lord; They also that uphold Egypt shall fall; and the pride of her power shall come down: from the tower of Syene shall they fall in it by the sword,saith the Lord God.

7 And they shall be desolate in the midst of the countries that are desolate,

and her cities shall be in the midst of the cities that are wasted.

8 And they shall know that I am the Lord, when I have set a fire in Egypt, and when all her helpers shall be destroyed.

Now look what happened to those who refused to move out of law and come into Grace: they that uphold Egypt, (or law), shall fall. Isa 28 clearly showed that these same ones went and FELL BACKWARDS. Paul made it clear when he said, if you return to law, you FALL from Grace, and Christ is of no effect to you. Yet the majority fear not to go back to law, trying to climb up some way other than Jesus = pure grace.

All ‘her’ pride and pomp is brought down, by this sword of Christ Jesus. Those who refuse to walk in the light of the gospel of Grace, shall be desolate. Jesus pronounced to old Jerusalem, same as old law, in Mat 23, your house is left to you DESOLATE. Yet almost everyone is still looking for that abomination that makes desolate to come. You are looking the wrong way. You need to look BACK to Calvary. This is what I told someone today, and she banned my from her group over this statement. This is how badly people are deceived.

They shall know that I am the Lord, when I have set FIRE in Egypt. This speaks of the baptism of Holy Ghost and FIRE. This fire destroys ‘her’ helpers, as they now see the error of old Adam/law, and come to Jesus/grace.

V9…In that day shall messengers go forth from me in ships to make the careless Ethiopians afraid,

and great pain shall come upon them, as in the day of Egypt: for, lo, it cometh.

The apostles are those messengers that go forth and awaken the heathen and cause them to repent and come into salvation.

V 10-12: Thus saith the Lord God; I will also make the multitude of Egypt to cease by the hand of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon.

11 He and his people with him, the terrible of the nations, shall be brought to destroy the land: and they shall draw their swords against Egypt, and fill the land with the slain.

12 And I will make the rivers dry, and sell the land into the hand of the wicked: and I will make the land waste,

and all that is therein, by the hand of strangers: I the Lord have spoken it.

Here is the proof that this Neb king of Babylon, is representing Jesus. See, He caused the multitude of LAW to cease. He brought them into Grace. The terrible of the nations means the Christians. They came against that old law system and tore it down. Peter called it a bondage; so did Paul. Paul said if you are under the law, you are under the curse. This also got me banned today. They still hate to hear the truth of this evil old law system.

Their ‘rivers’ were made dry and sold to the wicked. This is those who still clung to law and refused Grace. The strangers are the Christians. We make that old land of LAW waste. We know it is contrary to all that Jesus is.

He goes on to name many cities in Egypt and said he would destroy all their idols out of them. This is showing how salvation came to the ones who accepted Jesus and his message. Verse 18, he shows that he breaks the yokes of Egypt. Shows he took them out of that bondage of law. They then went into ‘captivity’ to Jesus or grace. This fulfilled God’s goal…they shall know that I am the LORD. God is showing the world that Adam lied; Adam is not God or the Lord.

Now, I want to show you the highlight, to me, of this chapter:

20 And it came to pass in the eleventh year, in the first month, in the seventh day of the month, that the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, 21 Son of man, I have broken the arm of Pharaoh king of Egypt; and, lo, it shall not be bound up to be healed, to put a roller to bind it, to make it strong to hold the sword. 22 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against Pharaoh king of Egypt, and will break his arms, the strong, and that which was broken; and I will cause the sword to fall out of his hand.

God is speaking here of breaking the ‘arm’ of this law system. Jesus Christ broke that arm. It was the left arm, which means the old law system, which Satan used in the OT time. That law system was his strength, as he held people in bondage, in fear of being killed, if they broke one law. That was his power to rule over the people with. L A W . Remember, Daniel spoke of the king of the North and the king of the South? He said both these kings speak lies at one table. Now carnal minded men have made up all kinds of lies to try and explain this. But none of them got it. They look at scripture as the dust, or a natural interpretation. That proves they are serpents. Dust is the serpent’s meat. They try to name this man or that man or such and such a nation, as being these two kings. It simply is not what Scripture teaches.

This breaking of the first arm, was the breaking of that old law system. That old law system was not to be healed and brought back up. That is the king of the North = that OT law system. This was satan’s power to rule over them with. The placement of the furniture in the tabernacle, as explained in Daniel, shows that the north side and the south side, goes with this law system. The East Side and the West Side goes with the grace covenant. This is where the mercy seat was placed. There was no MERCY under law.

See then that the old law system is the teacher of lies. It said that Eve was the problem. It said that Adam was the good one. But truth shows that Adam is satan, the man through whom sin and death entered this world. Can’t get into that here; too much for a message and this message is about something else. Just trying to show you how this works. When you don’t know enough, you cannot get these revelations. Hence, they are hidden and the secrets are only revealed to those who love and fear God.

Notice, He said “I HAVE” broken his arm. He already broke that first arm, that OT Law system. But notice, He said I am against this king of Egypt and WILL (future) break his arms, the strong, and that which was …already…broken. So, what is that? It is promise that Jesus will yet break this other arm of satan, THE SEVEN CHURCHES. Yep, this is that strong arm. If you doubt this, read in Revelation…He said the SEAT of Satan, was in the church. Seat means where the king sits. There is that same old king of Egypt or law. It is still old Adam; old serpent, still sending out that flood of lies to cause the WOMAN to be carried away. Adam still hates the woman.

So Jesus is going to yet break that other arm = law in the church. Revelation shows that after Jesus wounded this one with the deadly wound, that deadly wound was HEALED. How? Church. Yes, church took right back up that old law system. It was even prevalent in the Book of Acts, with that first powerful witness Church. The law lovers had already brought confusion and took some of them right back to that bondage of LAW.

So, Jesus is going to break that other arm, or the king of the south. That old law system in the OT was the king of the north and the false Church, using law instead of Grace, denying the baptism of the Holy Ghost, is that king of the south. They flat deny the NT way of salvation, repent of sins, be baptized in the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST FOR THE REMISSION OF THOSE SINS, AND BE FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST. This law church denies this and is therefore still the enemy of your soul.

Now for the proof that Jesus is this king, Neb:

23 And I will scatter the Egyptians among the nations, and will disperse them through the countries. 24 And I will strengthen the arms of the king of Babylon, and put my sword in his hand: but I will break Pharaoh’s arms, and he shall groan before him with the groanings of a deadly wounded man. 25 But I will strengthen the arms of the king of Babylon, and the arms of Pharaoh shall fall down; and they shall know that I am the Lord, when I shall put my sword into the hand of the king of Babylon, and he shall stretch it out upon the land of Egypt.26 And I will scatter the Egyptians among the nations, and disperse them among the countries; and they shall know that I am the Lord.

The message of the apostolic church in the book of Acts dispersed people by bringing them into grace. Thus he scattered them. Those who refused remained behind in law but those who came to Jesus moved into Grace. See that God said, after he broke the arm of Pharaoh, he took the sword out of his hand, (see, that law system had it in the OT); but God took it out of his hand and put it into the hand of this other king, Neb. This can only be Jesus. God put his sword in the hand of Jesus and no other. Notice, it said he strengthened the arms of the king of Babylon and the arms of Pharaoh fell down. He said he shall groan with the groaning of a DEADLY WOUNDED MAN = proving that this is the same deadly wound mentioned in Revelation. There is no other deadly wound named in Scripture, so this has to be the very same one. He gave that old law, {king} a deadly wound. He then dispersed those law believers among the countries. Ends with, They shall know that I am the LORD.


Taming the Law….By: Jo Smith…… June 8, 2015

I have said many times that nothing in Scripture is as we first think or as our natural mind perceives it to be. God said his word is spiritual and must be spiritually discerned. Most people hate this idea, since they do not have a clue what a spiritual mind is. Some think that because they can shout, speak in tongues or enjoy a good hand-clapping singing get-together, that this proves they are spiritual. Not at all.

The most confusing subject in all Scripture, and the most misunderstood, is that of LAW. IS IT LAW OR GRACE? I am afraid not many even realize that there is much of a difference, or that it does not matter. It is truly a matter of life or death, eternally.

God uses many nations, cities, and people, down through history to show his truth of times from Adam to the end. In this study of Ezekiel I will show you that God is using Egypt to show that old law system, since this law system was originally set up by Adam, for the purpose of gaining control over others. This law system is conclusively proven by Scripture to be the forbidden tree, or as I call it, tree of death. If you eat it, you die. So then see that knowing the difference in law and grace is vital to your salvation.

Ezekiel 30 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 30 The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying, 2 Son of man, prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord God; Howl ye, Woe worth the day! 3For the day is near,
even the day of the Lord is near,
a cloudy day; it shall be the time of the heathen.

4 And the sword shall come upon Egypt, and great pain shall be in Ethiopia, when the slain shall fall in Egypt,
and they shall take away her multitude, and her foundations shall be broken down.

5 Ethiopia, and Libya, and Lydia, and all the mingled people, and Chub, and the men of the land that is in league,
shall fall with them by the sword.

Why am I calling this message, Taming the Law? It is the message here in Eze 30. Watch:

The sword is the word of God. Surely you know that? OK> the sword comes on Egypt. What? Remember, Egypt here is same as Adam or law. So the sword of someone is going to take down this old law system, which is the enmity. Does not Scripture clearly say, the law is the enmity and that Jesus nailed it to his cross, taking it out of the way? Sure it does.

The day of the Lord? A cloudy day; the time of the heathen. It is the time that God reached out to the heathen to bring them to salvation. Cloudy? It is during those seven churches, when truth was so muddled over, that truth was covered up and hidden by the false shepherds, who took advantage of Grace, to set themselves up on high = preaching for wages; something that Jesus forbids.

If you read Ezekiel without the revelation from God, you will see only past history of ancient nations, and it will make no sense at all. But, let’s see this AS SPIRITUAL.

The ‘slain’ shall fall in Egypt? The sword cut off those holding to law, and brought them into understanding Grace, or salvation WITHOUT THE WORKS OF THE LAW. This is a message that Paul pounded and preached with all his might.

They took away her multitude? Sound horrible? not so. Those apostles, preaching grace, or hitting law with that sword, took a large number out of that death, and brought them into LIFE. Glory to God. See, the preaching of Grace tamed that old law and put it away from those who came into the light of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Her foundations were broken down….who? that old law system. It is called a she all through the OT. It is that tree of knowledge of Good and evil. Grace is also called a she….this one is the tree of life = a female. This is a beautiful message, which can be found all through Scripture, if you know what you are looking for and how to find it.

Verse 6-8. Thus saith the Lord; They also that uphold Egypt shall fall; and the pride of her power shall come down: from the tower of Syene shall they fall in it by the sword,saith the Lord God.

7 And they shall be desolate in the midst of the countries that are desolate,

and her cities shall be in the midst of the cities that are wasted.

8 And they shall know that I am the Lord, when I have set a fire in Egypt, and when all her helpers shall be destroyed.

Now look what happened to those who refused to move out of law and come into Grace: they that uphold Egypt, (or law), shall fall. Isa 28 clearly showed that these same ones went and FELL BACKWARDS. Paul made it clear when he said, if you return to law, you FALL from Grace, and Christ is of no effect to you. Yet the majority fear not to go back to law, trying to climb up some way other than Jesus = pure grace.

All ‘her’ pride and pomp is brought down, by this sword of Christ Jesus. Those who refuse to walk in the light of the gospel of Grace, shall be desolate. Jesus pronounced to old Jerusalem, same as old law, in Mat 23, your house is left to you DESOLATE. Yet almost everyone is still looking for that abomination that makes desolate to come. You are looking the wrong way. You need to look BACK to Calvary. This is what I told someone today, and she banned my from her group over this statement. This is how badly people are deceived.

They shall know that I am the Lord, when I have set FIRE in Egypt. This speaks of the baptism of Holy Ghost and FIRE. This fire destroys ‘her’ helpers, as they now see the error of old Adam/law, and come to Jesus/grace.

V9…In that day shall messengers go forth from me in ships to make the careless Ethiopians afraid,

and great pain shall come upon them, as in the day of Egypt: for, lo, it cometh.

The apostles are those messengers that go forth and awaken the heathen and cause them to repent and come into salvation.

V 10-12: Thus saith the Lord God; I will also make the multitude of Egypt to cease by the hand of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon.

11 He and his people with him, the terrible of the nations, shall be brought to destroy the land: and they shall draw their swords against Egypt, and fill the land with the slain.

12 And I will make the rivers dry, and sell the land into the hand of the wicked: and I will make the land waste,

and all that is therein, by the hand of strangers: I the Lord have spoken it.

Here is the proof that this Neb king of Babylon, is representing Jesus. See, He caused the multitude of LAW to cease. He brought them into Grace. The terrible of the nations means the Christians. They came against that old law system and tore it down. Peter called it a bondage; so did Paul. Paul said if you are under the law, you are under the curse. This also got me banned today. They still hate to hear the truth of this evil old law system.

Their ‘rivers’ were made dry and sold to the wicked. This is those who still clung to law and refused Grace. The strangers are the Christians. We make that old land of LAW waste. We know it is contrary to all that Jesus is.

He goes on to name many cities in Egypt and said he would destroy all their idols out of them. This is showing how salvation came to the ones who accepted Jesus and his message. Verse 18, he shows that he breaks the yokes of Egypt. Shows he took them out of that bondage of law. They then went into ‘captivity’ to Jesus or grace. This fulfilled God’s goal…they shall know that I am the LORD. God is showing the world that Adam lied; Adam is not God or the Lord.

Now, I want to show you the highlight, to me, of this chapter:

20 And it came to pass in the eleventh year, in the first month, in the seventh day of the month, that the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, 21 Son of man, I have broken the arm of Pharaoh king of Egypt; and, lo, it shall not be bound up to be healed, to put a roller to bind it, to make it strong to hold the sword. 22 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against Pharaoh king of Egypt, and will break his arms, the strong, and that which was broken; and I will cause the sword to fall out of his hand.

God is speaking here of breaking the ‘arm’ of this law system. Jesus Christ broke that arm. It was the left arm, which means the old law system, which Satan used in the OT time. That law system was his strength, as he held people in bondage, in fear of being killed, if they broke one law. That was his power to rule over the people with. L A W . Remember, Daniel spoke of the king of the North and the king of the South? He said both these kings speak lies at one table. Now carnal minded men have made up all kinds of lies to try and explain this. But none of them got it. They look at scripture as the dust, or a natural interpretation. That proves they are serpents. Dust is the serpent’s meat. They try to name this man or that man or such and such a nation, as being these two kings. It simply is not what Scripture teaches.

This breaking of the first arm, was the breaking of that old law system. That old law system was not to be healed and brought back up. That is the king of the North = that OT law system. This was satan’s power to rule over them with. The placement of the furniture in the tabernacle, as explained in Daniel, shows that the north side and the south side, goes with this law system. The East Side and the West Side goes with the grace covenant. This is where the mercy seat was placed. There was no MERCY under law.

See then that the old law system is the teacher of lies. It said that Eve was the problem. It said that Adam was the good one. But truth shows that Adam is satan, the man through whom sin and death entered this world. Can’t get into that here; too much for a message and this message is about something else. Just trying to show you how this works. When you don’t know enough, you cannot get these revelations. Hence, they are hidden and the secrets are only revealed to those who love and fear God.

Notice, He said “I HAVE” broken his arm. He already broke that first arm, that OT Law system. But notice, He said I am against this king of Egypt and WILL (future) break his arms, the strong, and that which was …already…broken. So, what is that? It is promise that Jesus will yet break this other arm of satan, THE SEVEN CHURCHES. Yep, this is that strong arm. If you doubt this, read in Revelation…He said the SEAT of Satan, was in the church. Seat means where the king sits. There is that same old king of Egypt or law. It is still old Adam; old serpent, still sending out that flood of lies to cause the WOMAN to be carried away. Adam still hates the woman.

So Jesus is going to yet break that other arm = law in the church. Revelation shows that after Jesus wounded this one with the deadly wound, that deadly wound was HEALED. How? Church. Yes, church took right back up that old law system. It was even prevalent in the Book of Acts, with that first powerful witness Church. The law lovers had already brought confusion and took some of them right back to that bondage of LAW.

So, Jesus is going to break that other arm, or the king of the south. That old law system in the OT was the king of the north and the false Church, using law instead of Grace, denying the baptism of the Holy Ghost, is that king of the south. They flat deny the NT way of salvation, repent of sins, be baptized in the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST FOR THE REMISSION OF THOSE SINS, AND BE FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST. This law church denies this and is therefore still the enemy of your soul.

Now for the proof that Jesus is this king, Neb:

23 And I will scatter the Egyptians among the nations, and will disperse them through the countries. 24 And I will strengthen the arms of the king of Babylon, and put my sword in his hand: but I will break Pharaoh’s arms, and he shall groan before him with the groanings of a deadly wounded man. 25 But I will strengthen the arms of the king of Babylon, and the arms of Pharaoh shall fall down; and they shall know that I am the Lord, when I shall put my sword into the hand of the king of Babylon, and he shall stretch it out upon the land of Egypt.26 And I will scatter the Egyptians among the nations, and disperse them among the countries; and they shall know that I am the Lord.

The message of the apostolic church in the book of Acts dispersed people by bringing them into grace. Thus he scattered them. Those who refused remained behind in law but those who came to Jesus moved into Grace. See that God said, after he broke the arm of Pharaoh, he took the sword out of his hand, (see, that law system had it in the OT); but God took it out of his hand and put it into the hand of this other king, Neb. This can only be Jesus. God put his sword in the hand of Jesus and no other. Notice, it said he strengthened the arms of the king of Babylon and the arms of Pharaoh fell down. He said he shall groan with the groaning of a DEADLY WOUNDED MAN = proving that this is the same deadly wound mentioned in Revelation. There is no other deadly wound named in Scripture, so this has to be the very same one. He gave that old law, {king} a deadly wound. He then dispersed those law believers among the countries. Ends with, They shall know that I am the LORD.

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